Possible Jedi Knight 4 (Help me pray!)

Leviathan · Post by **Leviathan** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:16 am

Off-topic : It apparently seems that the current Conversation has been gradually deviated from its original Subject, and that's why I would wish to return to it, by telling you that I think the Star Wars : Jedi Knight Series must have been surely dropped out by both Raven Software© and LucasArts©, which means that the Star Wars Episode III : Revenge of the Sith-based Product mentioned earlier will be probably way far from owning Common Points with Star Wars Jedi Knight : Jedi Academy, even though this means it will have brand-new features making the concerned Darth Vader-related Design much more attractive than all Star Wars Action ones we have learnt about so far...

Raptor522 · Post by **Raptor522** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:09 pm

LEVY SPEAKS!

Anyway, I knew that the Vader pics had to've been a seperate game, as Jedi Knight's take place AFTER Retun of the Jedi, but, who knows, maybe LucasArts and Raven aren't done. Or maybe Raven did drop it and they got someone else to do it...okay, so I'm praying again, but a Jedi Kight 4 WOULD sell, as long as they don't completely screw it up like the guys who made the third Harry Potter movie did.

Jawa_Killer · Post by **Jawa_Killer** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:22 pm

i heard of a JK4 with Yuuzhan Vong........with possibly Quake 4 Engine............

MasterSkywalker · Post by **MasterSkywalker** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:32 pm

was then shown a Jar Jar encased in Carbonite (see! LucasArts do still have a sense of humour...) and at first they made its texture like that of soft metal.

This sounds very, VERY intresting :twisted:
Anyway judging the artwork I think this is going to be the best game released by LA since Republic Commando or KoToR 2.

DeathRow · Post by **DeathRow** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:46 pm

When it has to be one of the best game released by LA since it is on the NextGen consoles

Leviathan · Post by **Leviathan** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:11 am

Off-topic : Jawa_Killer, is it caused by my very own Imagination, or would you have been indeed affected and perhaps convinced by the content delivered through this StarWars.com Article ? Indeed, as you must have surely guessed, I doubt that Raven Software© would accept to work back in collaboration with LucasArts®, and that's probably why a Project like Star Wars : Jedi Knight IV might be far from being achievable, no matter whether you seem to have succeeded in getting plausible elements...

Razorpig · Post by **Razorpig** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:22 am

Teancum wrote:
Raptor522 wrote:1) NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE PS3!!!!
PS3 is 10X > XBOX360. At least launch titles will show what the system can do an won't just be crappy 'guesstimates' of what it can do. The only game that looks great is Halo 3, and that might have been FMV. Well, the Burnout game looked awesome too.

Off-Topic - PS3 is gonna blow! Just look at how much Sony has backtracked with the system since last year's E3. It was proven that Killzone used pre-rendered CG graphics for the demo that they showed. But all during E3 last year they claimed that it was ingame graphics. What a joke. If you've seen any of the game trailers from this years E3, they NOW have a disclaimer stating what IS, or what ISN'T ingame graphics.

The PS3 will not be as powerful as its being made out to be. The only thing it REALLY has going for it is the fact that it will come prepackaged with the Blu-ray DVD player - that is its only advantage, allowing for MASSIVE storage per disc, and the possibility of decent high definition content. But Microsoft is planning on releasing a high-def dvd player as well (not sure if they've decided on blu-ray or HD-DVD yet). When that hits, it will kill the PS3.

As it is, the 360 is technically more powerful than any of our rigs. With 3 processor cores, there really aren't alot of computers out there that can touch it for games - and we're still BARELY seeing the first cycle of games for the machine that take advantage of its capabilities. Wait a few months for developers to start taking advantage of it, and I'm sure you'll see huge improvements over what the PS3 will be capable of at launch.

Gears of War is shaping up to be a phenomenal looking shooter - both graphically, and gameplay wise. I would think that the X-box 360 would be an awesome piece of hardware to create a new star wars game on, whether it be a BF3, or JK4 (though I think it would be sweeter to see a JK4, and Kyle Katarn again) - But, there is always the possibility of them doing a new Jedi-Knight PREQUEL, or perhaps a Jedi-Knight set in a different Timeline without the characters we've all grown to love.

Leviathan · Post by **Leviathan** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:23 pm

Off-topic : If Microsoft Corporation® has indeed planned on engineering and selling an "High-Capacity" DVD Player / Burner, then I assume it has chances to handle both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD Massive Storage Discs, as this Company has recently announced that it would work in collaboration with Samsung® in order to produce Hard-Drives being fully optimized for Microsoft® Windows Vista, thanks to a specific Process mainly inspired from INTEL® "Robson" Technology, and that's why I would easily imagine this Manufacturer proposing its upcoming Hybrid DVD Player, mentioned on numerous web-sites listed inside such a Google© Search, to "Redmond Firm"...

Razorpig · Post by **Razorpig** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:01 pm

Leviathan wrote:Off-topic : If Microsoft Corporation® has indeed planned on engineering and selling an "High-Capacity" DVD Player / Burner, then I assume it has chances to handle both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD Massive Storage Discs, as this Company has recently announced that it would work in collaboration with Samsung® in order to produce Hard-Drives being fully optimized for Microsoft® Windows Vista, thanks to a specific Process mainly inspired from INTEL® "Robson" Technology, and that's why I would easily imagine this Manufacturer proposing its upcoming Hybrid DVD Player, mentioned on numerous web-sites listed inside such a Google© Search, to "Redmond Firm"...

I can't remember exactly what format it would handle, or if it would handle both (I doubt it though, as current blu-ray drives are 400-500$ a piece)

All I CAN remember is that they are plannning to offer it as an upgrade add in device for between 150 - 200$

Karnage · Post by **Karnage** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:59 pm

PS3 may have good graphics but they hardly ever make any good games. I am not a PS fan in any way, so im not excited for the release.

Razorpig · Post by **Razorpig** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:20 pm

Razorpig wrote:
Leviathan wrote:Off-topic : If Microsoft Corporation® has indeed planned on engineering and selling an "High-Capacity" DVD Player / Burner, then I assume it has chances to handle both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD Massive Storage Discs, as this Company has recently announced that it would work in collaboration with Samsung® in order to produce Hard-Drives being fully optimized for Microsoft® Windows Vista, thanks to a specific Process mainly inspired from INTEL® "Robson" Technology, and that's why I would easily imagine this Manufacturer proposing its upcoming Hybrid DVD Player, mentioned on numerous web-sites listed inside such a Google© Search, to "Redmond Firm"...
I can't remember exactly what format it would handle, or if it would handle both (I doubt it though, as current blu-ray drives are 400-500$ a piece)

All I CAN remember is that they are plannning to offer it as an upgrade add in device for between 150 - 200$

Well, whatever the deal is, Samsung will NOT be making a hybrid HD/Bluray DVD reader

See Here :arrow: http://www.hdbeat.com/2006/06/27/samsun ... bo-player/

stealth#a$$a$in{bf2} · Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:47 pm

WOW! I just saw the thing and to me it looks like eaither a game about Order 66 killing the last of the jedi,or it could be a bounty hunter game or KOTOR III,but one thing im sure of its not battlefront III

Moving_Target · Post by **Moving_Target** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:55 pm

Don't Forget the Great Jedi Purge. That happens between Ep3 nad Ep4.

Leviathan · Post by **Leviathan** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:41 pm

Off-topic : Thanks for having shared the above Resource, Razorpig, but I assume it must not have been that convincing since I cannot cease thinking that Samsung® could engineer such an Hybrid Optical Device in case the Confrontation currently opposing both the "HD-DVD" and "Blu-Ray" Massive Storage Discs wasn't dropped out, and that's why I prefer avoiding to pay attention to such Affirmative Articles. Furthermore, I can't believe that Blu-Ray Discs Player / Burner having been publicly proposed so far cost only about 400~500 USD, since I have heard about first Generation-ones being sold for more than 1000 USD, while reminding that such Devices will be generated though three different Generations, each of them bringing additional features towards the aimed Products, increasing so their respective Prices...

Razorpig · Post by **Razorpig** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:24 am

Leviathan wrote:Off-topic : Thanks for having shared the above Resource, Razorpig, but I assume it must not have been that convincing since I cannot cease thinking that Samsung® could engineer such an Hybrid Optical Device in case the Confrontation currently opposing both the "HD-DVD" and "Blu-Ray" Massive Storage Discs wasn't dropped out, and that's why I prefer avoiding to pay attention to such Affirmative Articles. Furthermore, I can't believe that Blu-Ray Discs Player / Burner having been publicly proposed so far cost only about 400~500 USD, since I have heard about first Generation-ones being sold for more than 1000 USD, while reminding that such Devices will be generated though three different Generations, each of them bringing additional features towards the aimed Products, increasing so their respective Prices...

Oh, Samsung COULD engineer a dual format drive, however I believe they would wait to do that until such time as there are more of them on the market. Currently, I have seen an abundance of Blu-ray players (for home entertainment use), with only a few different models of HD-DVD. As far as computers go, I have only seen one computer manufacturer building with Blu-ray drives. (That being Alienware).

Until such time as the popularity of "next-gen" dvd drives becomes more prevalent, I think you will see more and more people taking sides in this format war. Much like the war between DVD +R, and DVD -R, (and to a lesser extent DVD RAM), NOONE created a multi-format drive until there were enough of these drives in peoples homes to warrant it.

The differences between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are many. The fabrication process for each type of disc is RADICALLY different, as well as the optical pickup assemblies of the drives themselves. There are few manufacturers who would be willing (at this time) to sink money into a drive that would be capable of reading both formats. I only know of one manufacturer who has stated definitively that they WILL create a hybrid drive (LG - Lucky Goldstar), but even then, I'm almost positive it will be a second generation drive, and probably 6 months to a year away at the minimum.

This isn't to say that other manufacturers (including Samsung) wouldn't create hybrid drives, BUT they have put so much money into the individual formats right now, that it doesn't make sense from a fiscal standpoint to start investing money in a competing product until they have seen some sort of monetary return from their current investment.

Don't plan on seeing any hybrid drives any time soon. You will see them, but not for quite some time. Unlike the previous format war (DVD +/-), this format war is being driven by movie studios who have a hand in the formats because of content, and encryption, as well as the manufacturers themselves. Last time around, it was just due to the equipment manufacturers themselves.

We will definitely see a difference in these products for quite some time, until a clear "victor" can be named in the war of formats, and the price of manufacturing both the media and the drives to display the media come down in price enough that one or more of these players is found in every home. Until then, we will have to pick and choose whatever format is right for us. Hybrid players (if they DO come out anytime soon) will be prohibitively expensive - yet another reason why manufacturers most likely will not mass produce them.

Personally, while I dislike Sony, I do think that the Blu-Ray appears to be the better of the 2 formats, with much larger storage capabilities, and much higher read speeds. In the next generation of video games, I would love to see these new capabilities exploited to their fullest to create some truly amazing looking video games. Here's hoping that the next Generation games look photo-realistic, with full Hollywood production values that rival the movies for Special effects, Story, and Gameplay. If that happens, then we ALL win the format wars....