153rd Legion Beta Update, kinda, 11-25-2009

[kinetosimpetus]

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153rd Legion
by kinetosimpetus

What it is...

A mod that adds an era to most stock maps.
It uses custom republic and cis sides.

Installation...

Copy/extract to your addon folder
(...LucasArts\Star Wars Battlefront II\Gamedata\ADDON\-place "153" in here)

Known bugs\left to do...
floating weapons
localizations not finished
not all units have final model/skin
republic autoturret is result of a failed experiment, it will be fixed/replaced


CREDITS/THANKS

Jesus Christ, God's Son

dispenable mannable turret tripod trainmaster611, Repsharpshooter
underhand chaingun model, gunner anims caleb1117
dc-15 carbine oom-9 converted by Darth_Z
aat skin cis delta-1035
imp scout with phase2 jetpack DarthD.U.C.K.
-with kama Deviss-Rex

rc model
-NeoMarz/MarsMarshall for the AWESOME commando model textures.
-Vyse for converting the unit and fitting it to the battlefront sceleton.
-DarthD.U.C.K. for improving it

-i (kinetosimetus) slightly reskinned the boss skins





Legal stuff



not made by lucasarts, pandemic

the screenies (or just a few of them)

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the link

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first version
second version
third version

Feel free to post epic pics and critisism!

[Nihillo]

That was interesting, I like the color scheme of your legion, I like that "shotgun" (it's actually a Flechette Launcher, but it doesn't matter that much) and I like the Magnaguard's weapons, however, I can't ignore the fact that this mod is unbalanced

You hate droids, right? That's the only explanation I can find for the lack of attention you gave to the Battle Droids; I'm sorry, but that is absurd, how do you expect the player to do anything with those realistic B1s? They can't run for three seconds, they can't jump, they can't roll, they can't survive a couple shots and they are equipped with a puny rifle equivalent to a pistol! Worst of all, that applies to most of the CIS units.

Don't go for realism, it rarely provides fun gameplay.

[kinetosimpetus]

I had been testing the sides with ubermode, favoring CIS, but it was too hard for the clones. What if I returned to that?

[Manny18Ply]

This mod is pretty AWSOME! You rock Kinetosimpetus. I like your Droid Commando Sword which is pretty SWEET!

[kinetosimpetus]

any suggestions for balanceing it better while still keeping somewhat realistic?

[Nihillo]

any suggestions for balanceing it better while still keeping somewhat realistic?

Increase the Droid's stamina to make them faster and more agile, it's ok for them to be somewhat fragile (this should apply to every B-1 droid); if you don't want to give the basic B-1 more weapons, then at least give their rifles more firing modes, perhaps a burst mode (fires three decently strong, inaccurate shots, then overheats) and a pistol-like mode (that doesn't overheat so quickly).

I will come back with more suggestions later (give me some time to play it again and think).

Edit: alright, here we go:

The player only has access to the standard B-1 in the beginning of the match, no points should be required to play as the rocketeer (why is it the only one with explosives??) and sniper; the gunner droid (the one with the black markings) should have a different primary weapon, nothing too fancy, just something to differ it from the standard B-1; the pilot droid should have bacta/ammo packs or a fusion cutter with the ability to "heal" other droids, and perhaps a different weapon with more firepower (shotgun?), the magna guard has too many weapons - the commando pistol is unecessary.

Now for the Clones, the Clone Trooper is much stronger than the B-1, he has four grenades of two different types, reduce it to two; the ARC is overpowered, he can't have a blaster rifle and a rocket-launcher; the ARC Captain shouldn't have a commando pistol - he has a heavy repeater; if I'm not mistaken, the player has immediate access to Katarn-class Armored Mace Windu right from the beginning, that's not appropriate.

I hope that helps.

[kinetosimpetus]

the "armored mace windu" and clone marine are currently 0 points to unlock, because i was still in testing mode with them

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll try to get some of them set up, when I'm not working on another project

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(which will NOT be unbalanced at all, as far as units go)

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The reason there are fewer explosives... i don't like how they are used online, but i'm being hypocritical there... i usually like TK's on, just so you actually have to use skill to blow something up

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• fusion cutter now repairs droids( clones cutter damages)
  commando droid has rifle/sword only
  clones carry fewer nades
  arcs carry regular pistol
  droid pilot rocketteer and sniper have 0 point to unlock
  the rep "hero" has ion nades, since i didn't get the other one working right
  clone jettrooper has a kama
  droideka addshield is +50 rather than -100

more on the fusion cutter

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as far as i can tell, it will repair anything else first, but if there is nothing else to fix nearby, it will fix itself!

and i am working on a rapidfire version of the b1 rifle as an alterate fire( like the jk series e-11)

[kinetosimpetus]

Update: b1 assault droid gunner has commando rifle, droid snipr rifle uses commando ordnance, basic b1 has a second rifle, innaccurate but bursts of commando shots (commando droid shots are faster with more power)

[Nihillo]

That's a nice update, I'm eager to play it.

It's interesting to have kama wearing Jet Troopers for a change, the Wookiepedia Kama article even says:

Clone jet troopers also instituted kama as a way of protecting the legs against jetpack downwash.

However, we never see Jet Troopers using them, well at least I didn't.

[kinetosimpetus]

Yes, i have seen that article. I will make a few more changes and upload it again, soon then. =)

Edit: oh, yeah and more of the maps are included now. I think all of them, insteadof about half.

[Super_Clone]

That's a nice update, I'm eager to play it.

It's interesting to have kama wearing Jet Troopers for a change, the Wookiepedia Kama article even says:

Clone jet troopers also instituted kama as a way of protecting the legs against jetpack downwash.

However, we never see Jet Troopers using them, well at least I didn't.

I read that a long time ago, and now that I remember that, map jet troopers have kama's now

[kinetosimpetus]

next version uploaded, original post updated with link, also here

on coruscant is a new hero i might use instead, after a little more work

here's a video of him in action

[Nihillo]

This version is a huge improvement, I enjoyed playing it, thanks for the release.

The modifications you made apparently solved the balance problem (and for some reason I love to play as the Pilot Droid), the kama-wearing Jet Trooper is awesome, every skin is good, the altered "Anakin" is nice and overall I didn't find anything lacking in gameplay.

I found a way to cheat that small interval before the SBD starts firing his blaster, if the player repeatedly presses the left mouse button instead of holding it, the SBD starts firing right away, you might want to change that.

The icon for the Droid Gunner's turret is completely black and there's a some floating icons, not to mention the incorrect names, but I'm sure you will work on these small details later.

About the hero, why not keep the new hero as well as the old one? Also, I think the CIS should have a hero too.

[kinetosimpetus]

yeah, i'd give the cis a hero too, but i seem to have run out of unit spots, unless i can add one more... or i could use different heros on different maps, maybe the armoured hero in close maps, the "jedi" in urban, a new one? in wide open, and then matching villains, (the droideka might represent a villain, unless i can add another class)

about the sbd, i'll check it out, but idk how to fix it, i made it's alternate weap semi-auto to prevent another cheat, but i don't know this one

hm... it is as you say, but it is semi-auto if you do that,
hold down and warm up to auto, or just click as if semi auto
the clone chaingun does not do that, i'll have to see why

ok, its fixed now, it was because i had no cooldowntime set

Oh, yeah, i keep forgetting to lessen the battledroid's ammo for his burst fire weapon

[kinetosimpetus]

Update, kinda

here is the version that I last munged before school started, and never uploaded, the sbd bug is fixed, and some other stuff is different, some new effects, a new rocket droid on coruscant only

note, that the newish hero on coruscant, and the armored hero on every other map, will likely not be in the next version, if i even have enough time to work on it, but characters based on the same names will likely be reintroduced later.

http://www.filefront.com/14999043/153.zip/

call it beta 3 for now.

New link will be added to first post as well.

[RogueKnight]

Update, kinda

here is the version that I last munged before school started, and never uploaded, the sbd bug is fixed, and some other stuff is different, some new effects, a new rocket droid on coruscant only

note, that the newish hero on coruscant, and the armored hero on every other map, will likely not be in the next version, if i even have enough time to work on it, but characters based on the same names will likely be reintroduced later.

http://www.filefront.com/14999043/153.zip/

call it beta 3 for now.

New link will be added to first post as well.

Nice to have you back, no matter how short a time it may be for.

[kinetosimpetus]

Tip for clone players: watch out for droideka. I think i'll use it as a minor hero in later versions. I was totally pwned by one today.

Edit: Vid! of Skytrooper! CLICK

[Darth_Spiderpig]

Veery nice Sky Trooper, kinetos.

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Did I recognize a short bounce of the jetpack when it gets activated/deactivated?....No, I must be mistaken

[Recon Trooper]

I like the shotguns bullets. well done!
I love this

[Toa of Magnetic]

nice pic's and cool Video!
the mod is very cool.