W.I.P. Yavin 4 Crash

GuitarMan · Post by **GuitarMan** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:36 pm

What walls. And I will try to make the platforms better in the final release.

GuitarMan · Post by **GuitarMan** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:47 pm

Ok does anyone know a good file uploading site?

yankeefan05 · Post by **yankeefan05** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:04 pm

Filefront and RapidShare r the best.

GuitarMan · Post by **GuitarMan** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:05 pm

Thank you. I used RapidShare.

Post by **Maveritchell** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:22 pm

GuitarMan wrote:What walls. And I will try to make the platforms better in the final release.

What walls? Why, the terrain walls, the ones that are no doubt forming the pit. I recently made a map with some similar terrain features, and without any sort of blending, I can assure you that walls like that will fail.

GuitarMan · Post by **GuitarMan** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:26 pm

OOO those walls. Trust me. They are good. I have even tryed getting through them. I have seen stupid AI try to get through them. You can't. So do'nt worry. There is only one spawn glitch where it will spawn you into a wall. But you can get out VERY easily.

Dohnutt · Post by **Dohnutt** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:29 pm

Hooray, I got the BETA, and will play it as soon as it's downloaded. It's at 17% right now.

GuitarMan · Post by **GuitarMan** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:31 pm

Hopefully my other tester will log on soon. I have'nt seen him online much.

EDIT: This goes to my beta testers. Once you have played my mod, felt my mod, EMBRACED my mod, TASTED, my mod. (sorry I probably went a little too far there) Then post here your feedback.
IE:
-Glitches
-Thoughts
-Reccomendations

Thank you!

Darth_Z13 · Post by **Darth_Z13** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:39 am

Hey sorry about the wait, lots of stuff going on.

1. You have only modded the skins for the regular trooper and the engineer. Are you planning on making the others as well?

2. You are missing textures in some places.

3. Your map was a little, well, empty. I think you need to put some crashed LAAT Gunships around the Republic CPs.

4. I have no idea what this thing is. It looks like a giant crystal.

5. I think that the CP placement was kind of, well I think it could be better. The middle CPs were right next to each other so the Republic would just stand there and anythime a droid spawned it would be 10-on-1. I think that the canyons shouldn't be well canyons. They were kind of annoying because you would spawn and there would be no one down there to kill. Maybe you should make it so it's like a hill.

I think here would be a cool place for a CP.

Finally, you need to increase the AI and Reinforcements because there was nobody really there.

P.S. I thought that the Kamino objects didn't really fit in so you may want to reskin them.

GuitarMan · Post by **GuitarMan** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:06 pm

I will be adding new skins. I am putting ships in the finla release. those crystall things.. well im really not sure what they are. I kinda just put them there. I will try to move cps. Im not a good skinner, so you may have to just deal with the Kamino textures. And im still not sure how to raise the number of AI. But I will look into it. Dohnutt, any thoughts from you?

Darth_Z13 · Post by **Darth_Z13** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:28 pm

Hey, here's how you modify AI and reinforcements (stuff in blue):

SetupTeams{
rep = {
team = REP,
units = 40,
reinforcements = 150,
soldier = { "rep_inf_ep3_rifleman",9, 25},
assault = { "rep_inf_ep3_rocketeer",1, 4},
engineer = { "rep_inf_ep3_engineer",1, 4},
sniper = { "rep_inf_ep3_sniper",1, 4},
officer = {"rep_inf_ep3_officer",1, 4},
special = { "rep_inf_ep3_jettrooper",1, 4},

Oh, and here is some reskins for your Kamino elements.

http://files.filefront.com/kamino_textu ... einfo.html

GuitarMan · Post by **GuitarMan** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:31 pm

Ahhh thank you. And did you make those reskins?

Darth_Z13 · Post by **Darth_Z13** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:36 pm

Yes I did. Just a simple matter of applying a few filters and then making it sepia. It looks okay though right?

GuitarMan · Post by **GuitarMan** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:46 pm

Yes, it looks awesome. (at least in ZeroEditor) Lolz. I bet it looks great in-game too!

Dohnutt · Post by **Dohnutt** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:57 pm

Hm, well. I've got lots to say. Lots of screenies, lots of everything. Too many screenies to upload. What if I were to just send you a Word Document with a review?

GuitarMan · Post by **GuitarMan** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:00 pm

Anything is good.

Dohnutt · Post by **Dohnutt** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:23 pm

Ok, here is my BETA test review for Yavin 4 Crash...

It all starts when you spawn. If you look to the Crashed Star Destroyer, this is what you'll see:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0035.jpg

There is actually an invisible wall here, and only lasers can shoot through it(blasters, blaster rifles, etc.) Oh yeah, I'm inside the Star Destroyer:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0044.jpg

Now if you go back to the Large Yavin Temple where you originally spawn, and look inside, you'll see:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0040.jpg

If you turn around, and go to those platforms, they're overlapping, and look like this:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0037.gif

Now, turn around, and face the Yavin Temple, and theres a big dropoff type thing:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0036.jpg

If you run straight at it, you can go right through it:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0041.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0043.jpg

Which is the same with many other walls as well:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0050.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0053.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0055.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0051.jpg

Some things cannot be explained...

Like, why you can see right through some walls:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0045.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0044.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0049.jpg

And why some plants are flat like paper:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0047.jpg

Or why there are stairs going into the wall:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0048.jpg

And why enemies just stand around near Command Posts:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0039.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0046.jpg

Or why the waterfall is running right through the ground:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0054.jpg

And lastly, my personal favourite...
Why is the path... up there?
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0052.jpg

You need a path to get out of those big holes, and vice-versa(sp?). The holes should also be a it less rounded.

I'm pretty sure that's all. If I think of anything else, I'll tell you.

Post by **Maveritchell** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:17 pm

Dohnutt wrote:If you run straight at it, you can go right through it:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0041.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0043.jpg

Which is the same with many other walls as well:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0050.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0053.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0055.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/ ... t_0051.jpg

*Ehh-hem!*

As I tried to tell you earlier, completely vertical rockfaces are bad news. There are two ways to fix them, a hard and an easy. The hard one is sloppy, too, but I'll let you know of it just so you can make the choice.

The easy way is to use the blend tool on your walls. And then TEST EVERY ONE INGAME. I know it's a very difficult thing to do with a large hole, but you have to do it. One easy wallhack can ruin the game. (P.S., Test with jettroopers.)
The hard way is to use the invisible blocks in the common .odfs to give collision to your walls. They're labeled something like com_inv_col_8 to com_inv_col_16 or something. You can only see them in ZE when you have them selected, so you would need to place one, select it in your objects list, and then move it around. You can't see them with just the "place" tool.

And as for the flat plants mentioned, there's nothing you did wrong to make them do that, it's just that they were designed as props for the border of the Yavin map. They were never meant to have three dimensions, and will never have three dimensions. You just need to use other props.

And as for the AI standing around. Make paths.

Dohnutt · Post by **Dohnutt** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:40 pm

Exactly! Though it's kinda fun running through wall

GuitarMan · Post by **GuitarMan** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:45 pm

I am sorry people. I have decided to abandon this mod. I will be moving onto more bigger things. And I just felt that this wasn't that important. So if you would like me to release it as it is right now then I will.