Wishlist of tweaks/updates

[Unit989]

Well, looks like someone noticed, huh. Still, other than that bug the maps are all really impressive.

[Ping]

I don't know if any of you guys have played Penguin's Ez'Shaz Sun'ken map, but I've noticed that in that map, every time a CP is captured, yellow text comes up and says something like: "CIS has captured the Landing Pad". You guys think you could mess around with the game to get this to appear in Classic Conquest?

[H_BOMB]

Whoa! I didn't know that that map was even completed! Do you think you could send me a link?

Yeah, that might be a good idea, and I always was curious if it was possible to give CP's names like in BF1.

[Teancum]

I can't speak for Mav, but I always wanted to go full SWBF1 HUD and everything if I were to go that far, which is why I've never done it.

[H_BOMB]

Would it be too much to post our own wishlists of tweaks? Because I made a list of (possible) tweaks that you could do for the heroes. Or would that get too hectic?

[Ping]

Whoa! I didn't know that that map was even completed! Do you think you could send me a link?

Yeah, that might be a good idea, and I always was curious if it was possible to give CP's names like in BF1.

Look at AlexSecura's account, he has it, but better get it soon.

[Teancum]

Would it be too much to post our own wishlists of tweaks? Because I made a list of (possible) tweaks that you could do for the heroes. Or would that get too hectic?

Why not. So long as everyone realizes it's just a wishlist.

[H_BOMB]

Okay then, here's my wishlist of hero tweaks:

Rebel Alliance

-Corran Horn
Primary: Obi Wan lightsaber combo,
Secondary: Rally and Regeneration. (Corran Horn was never good at telekinesis so force push and lightsaber throw wouldn't make sense.)

Galactic Empire:

- Grand Admiral Thrawn
Primary: Blaster Pistol, Fusion Cutter,
Secondary: Rally, Rage, and Regeneration. (Grand Admiral Thrawn was a strategist so having a bunch of buffs would make sense.)

-IG-88
Primary: Rebel Sniper Rifle, Flamethrower
Secondary: Neuropoison, Detpack, Mines

-Bossk
Primary: Concussion Rifle, Flamethrower
Secondary: Detpack, Thermal Detonators/(KotOR plasma grenades?)

CIS

-Aurra Sing
Primary: Sniper Rifle, Lightsaber (red?) Luke Combo
Secondary: Detpack, Mines, Thermal Detonators

-Durge
Primary: Dual Pistols (now we know how to do them, so why not?) Flamethrower
Secondary: Wrist Rocket Launcher, Detpack

Republic

-Plo Koon
Primary: Obi Wan Lightsaber combo
Secondary: Force Judgement, Lightsaber Throw

Oh, and maybe an A'Sharad Hett hero with dual green sabers and force push and saber throw. I know Sharad Hett's already in there, but he wasn't really in the Clone Wars at all. But whatever.

KotOR

The main beef I have is with Malak and Revan's saber combos. Perhaps a Darth Vader Saber Combo for Revan, and a Count Dooku saber Combo for Malak?

-Zaalbar
Primary: zaalbar's bowcaster, Vibrosword Mace Combo
secondary: Whatever secondary weapons he had before

Other Heroes

-Yuuzhan Vong Warrior (My ideas for this guy are a little more extreme)
Primary: Amphistaff (amphistaph model), Luke or Obi Wan combo.
Secondary: Neuropoison, Rage, Thud Bugs (Acts like wrist rocket launcher but instead shoots little beetles)

(Yuuzhan Vong considered technology as horrible and blasphemic and sinful and just downright bad. So having them use blasters and detpacks and stuff would be weird.)


So what do you all think? I might have had some more ideas, but until I remember them, this is it for now.

[Ping]

My only wish is that the "bonus pack" might come through, i.e., convert Sullust, Myrkr, Beachhead, add CC to Coruscant Streets. I don't know how hard it is to convert maps, but hey, I'm just trying to contribute.

[Teancum]

Yeah, I'd have to say the bonus pack is a big one for me. A separate pack altogether that works as an expansion. I hope I get to dig down and work on that someday.

[H_BOMB]

Maybe a 91st recon legion could be in there somewhere.

[Teancum]

Nope, no more legions. How many do we really need?

[H_BOMB]

True...

Well, another thing I noticed witht he current Convo Pack is that on the stock space maps, there is still a lot of first person cockpit views missing.

And this is along the line of things being cut, but I don't think that Bespin:Platforms needs Hero Assault. To me Hero Assault looks/works much better and small, condensed maps.

OH OH OH! I remember seeing that Mav was making some head models for his The Dark Times mod. Two of them were a Kel Dor, a Mon Calamari, and a Duros. Perhaps an improved Plo Koon, and/or Admiral Ackbar hero and Cad Bane hero?

[Teancum]

Updating heroes I'm fine with, but again, how many new heroes do we need? Let new maps have new heroes.

As far as first person views, if someone wants to model them we'll put them in.

[H_BOMB]

I guess some of the new heroes could replace other less-known ones. Like Yuuzhan Vong Warrior, Admiral Sarn, and Sharad Hett.

[Teancum]

I fail to see how Cad Bane is a "better known" hero. He's been in one episode of Clone Wars. Not trying to start a fight -- just sayin'.

[Twilight_Warrior]

I only have one thing that I think could make this mod btr that isn't already listed:
Make the heroes in Classic Conquest dissappear after a while.

In BFI, when the hero was activated, they fled the battlefield when their team was down to 20 units or less. It would make it MUCH easier to capture that last CP where the 2 heroes are fighting.

[darthtyren]

I fail to see how Cad Bane is a "better known" hero. He's been in one episode of Clone Wars.

Even so, he will be the villian for the first part of Season 2.

[Teancum]

Fair enough, still new heroes can be in some other mod. What Mav and I are doing is polishing what already exists. The Convo Pack doesn't have to encompass everything.

[H_BOMB]

I found two more hero tweaks that could be made. Both KotOR. Both are very minor.

Mission Vao: Instead of a blaster/assault rifle a blaster pistol. I remember she started out with one in KotOR. And maybe some mines or detpacks for secondary weapons.

Chuundar: I believe he used a double-bladed vibrosword in the game, so that could replace his present single vibrosaber. Though I don't think a double vibro has been modeled yet.

And another update that could be done is to cut out some of the modes from the select all list that aren't included in the mod anymore. Wait. Now that I go back, the Select All thing doesn't even work. I click select all, choose a game mode and when I click add maps nothing happens.

I was also thinking how cool it would be if somebody made all the BF: Renegade Squadron maps like Sullust, Boz Pity, Ord Mantell, and Korriban as part of the bonus map pack mentioned earlier. Of course, whoever made it would have to make the most of the assets from BF2 and BF1.