Rise of the Empire #1: New Era Begins (Version 0.75)!!

[badass7]

Well, its 8pm In England and its still not up.

Great looking map Bandu, cant wait to play it.

[^Destroyer^]

Rofl Bandu didn't make this map, Majin Revan did. And its 9:30 pm here now and filefront is still not online.

^Destroyer^

[PR-0927]

The combat speeders are way too fast. Since the nearest thing to them in the movies is an aat ...you should have a similar speed for the combat speeders. It just looks pretty stupid imo.

Sorry, I go on actual facts only.



And EU.

AATs are Armored Assault Tanks, not tiny and quick fighter tanks (plus, repulsors advanced in technology over the years).

But, the speeds of the tanks are correct, no matter how fast.

Correct and fun is what I care about. I tend to get the fun automatically.

- Majin Revan

[valiant]

Majin, PLEASE give us another upload location.

[benkenobi]

Majin, it's not very "fun" when some of us don't get to play the map because u won't upload it to a different site.

[valiant]

(nods sagely)

[JabbaLovesLava]

Correct and fun is what I care about. I tend to get the fun automatically.

- Majin Revan

Can you say conceited? I can! Majin Revan! Sorry to break it to you dude, but you think too much of yourself. The only thing you talk about is your maps. It's ok if you like your maps, but when another person does something similar, dont go on about them being thiefs and stuff.

PS: Is this map worth downloading or is it like all the other maps made by Majin?

[sawyerdk9]

Jabba, I have to agree with you but let's not start this again ok

[PR-0927]

Correct and fun is what I care about. I tend to get the fun automatically.

- Majin Revan

Can you say conceited? I can! Majin Revan! Sorry to break it to you dude, but you think too much of yourself. The only thing you talk about is your maps. It's ok if you like your maps, but when another person does something similar, dont go on about them being thiefs and stuff.

PS: Is this map worth downloading or is it like all the other maps made by Majin?

*Sigh.*

Must you always try to start a flame war? I was not referring to myself at all. What I was saying is that I always have fun when things are correct. It is just how I am. It comes automatically (in everything).

I was in no way bragging about my map. You see, I am trying to point out that I make my maps for what I like. If others like it, so be it. If they don't, that's fine too. But, I make my maps for myself and what I like. If accuracy is what I like, I don't know what your problem is.

Please stop trying to constantly twist my words and make it sound as if I am some bigot.

And, I have a life outside of my maps, if you were trying to imply that I didn't.

As for thieving, I can't really help feeling slightly insulted when a person ADMITS to using my stuff as an idea. I also requested, not demanded, that that particular person change it, BUT, only AFTER this person asked me if I wished so. Otherwise, I would not have even asked this person to change her map so drastically. It's impolite. This person would not have removed the thing from her map or even given me the option of it, if I truly did not have a reason to want such a thing.

Now, please, behave yourself.

Leviathan and Teancum (and Guru), I request that you monitor the threads in which JabbaLovesLava tends to post in. This way you can observe how he is constantly trying to insult me, somehow. A big flame war between us was started last year because of an incident like this.

- Majin Revan

[Lord-Bandu]

The combat speeders are way too fast. Since the nearest thing to them in the movies is an aat ...you should have a similar speed for the combat speeders. It just looks pretty stupid imo.

Sorry, I go on actual facts only.



And EU.

AATs are Armored Assault Tanks, not tiny and quick fighter tanks (plus, repulsors advanced in technology over the years).

But, the speeds of the tanks are correct, no matter how fast.

Correct and fun is what I care about. I tend to get the fun automatically.

- Majin Revan

Where does it say that the Rebel/Imperial Tanks go that fast?

I believe that Pandemic in fact made up these Tanks and according to them they are the equivalent to the Federations AAT's .


Youv made the tanks too fast/overpowered aswell as having the commando overpowered . The map is just a vehicle spawn camp fest. Online , this map would drive me crazy lol .

I guess thats just me tho' I prefer maps that a little more skill is needed other than luck ( luck being - who spawns closest to a vehicle spawn)

[PR-0927]

The TX-130S Saber-class Fighter Tank is no longer just made up. It has become accepted as SW. And, just FYI:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TX-130S_fighter_tank


I got my info from there and a SW book with cross-sections.

As for the AAC-1 Hovertank, I wanted to make it slower than the TX-130S Saber-class Fighter Tank, but faster than the AAT. Plus, its description at MANY locations described it as fast. Plus, the AAT was older, slower technology.

But, each to his or her own. I can't stop you from thinking that, nor do I really care to, otherwise I'd feel guilty trying to removeyour individuality.



Just for the record, play SWRC, the commandos are STRONG (and their shields are too).

- Majin Revan

[JabbaLovesLava]

What? I don't insult you. I just say what it is. Also, i wasn't starting a flame war, it just makes me mad some things you do. like i said before, it's ok if you like your maps, because that's how it should be. You map and make maps YOU like, not maps for other people. But there's a limit between liking your maps and saying (or implying) everywhere that your maps are the best, and any other maps that resemble (in any way, even if the terrain is like yours [a plain on naboo with hills and some trees, for example, you automatically think that person is stealing your idea.) And I don't change your wording, I just post what I understand after reading your posts. Maybe I look for meaning beyond what people actually say, but no one here can change that. Heck, no one anywhere could change that. Sorry if it seemed rude, but I just get annoyed by people who always talk about their stuff as if it was the only good thing on earth, and nothing can be better.

[PR-0927]

"But there's a limit between liking your maps and saying (or implying) everywhere that your maps are the best,"


I don't recall doing this. Please point out where this happened. I do not like to brag because it would send any fans that I have, away. I don't want that.


"and any other maps that resemble (in any way, even if the terrain is like yours [a plain on naboo with hills and some trees, for example, you automatically think that person is stealing your idea.)"


I don't recall doing this EVER. If someone has almost the IDENTICAL skin, which is usually rare, I get suspicious. I once had someone send me a map of mine, renamed and textures changed. He got the files from my source pack and claimed the map as his own. So, I have to be ready for this stuff. I don't like people who steal. Penguin didn't steal, but she ADMITTED to being HEAVILY influenced by my stuff.

- Majin Revan

[RDST]

I have to agree with Bandu on the power of the tank. Now, that being said, Majin, you do have the right to create maps like you want and what you think are fun. However, your maps (not just this one) have always been what I call "Vehicle fields." Basically, its just a plain with vehicles on both sides. Other than the fact that your skins are nice, the map isn't much fun.

The Fighter Tank should not be that fast. Not just for the fact of balencing, but for the fact that in the Clone Wars game (when the tank was first created and showed) the tank is relitivley slow. Now it still is faster than the standard one, but that fast. Things just don't balance out (which is needed to create a happy median of gameplay and fun).

I belive Bandu is just trying to provide constructive critism.

Also Jabba you and Majin really should settle this outside of the thread.

[JabbaLovesLava]

Ok, we are settling it now on MSN,i believe we will reach an agreement soon

[PR-0927]

I belive Bandu is just trying to provide constructive critism.

Also Jabba you and Majin really should settle this outside of the thread.

And, I am not trying to get rid of the constructive criticism, just answering as to why I did what I did.

And yes, Jabba and I are talking over MSN right now.

- Majin Revan

[guru]

Ok stop the replies and flames. Get back on topic. Maj has a huge ego ,and makes great maps. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. If it drives you nuts just ignore this posts. If you dont agree with something simply avoid it , negative posting is the same as flames and just isnt helping anyone.

If someone is wasting webspace and bandwidth then its a really bad thing - cuz the admins come and lock the topics and toss people. lets all just be friends so the moderators dont lock the topic and toss people. LOL

Dont be gametoast fodder, its really boring there.

[RDST]

The mighty admin stricks his hammer. Oh well

Still Majin needs to put the map up on another site, besides Filefront.

[Lord-Bandu]

The TX-130S Saber-class Fighter Tank is no longer just made up. It has become accepted as SW. And, just FYI:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TX-130S_fighter_tank


I got my info from there and a SW book with cross-sections.

As for the AAC-1 Hovertank, I wanted to make it slower than the TX-130S Saber-class Fighter Tank, but faster than the AAT. Plus, its description at MANY locations described it as fast. Plus, the AAT was older, slower technology.

But, each to his or her own. I can't stop you from thinking that, nor do I really care to, otherwise I'd feel guilty trying to removeyour individuality.



Just for the record, play SWRC, the commandos are STRONG (and their shields are too).

- Majin Revan

"the AAT was older, slower technology"



As far as im concerned they are equivelents to the AAT and look stupid speeding around like that. Its also unbalancing. Theres no skill needed now ...none at all, to driving a tank ( not that there was much needed anyway) . Just hop in a tank and spawn rape ,vehicle Diet Dr. Pepper the living hell out of the oposition. If you manage to die whilst in a 'super tank' youd be better playing with playdo lol .

I think a little more thought could have gone into the spawn areas aswell . Especially with all the overpowered vehicles and commandos. There is no / little cover anywhere on the map. It seems youv spent all your time on getting the weapons names right etc and forgot about the fundamentals of a FPS game. Gameplay and balancing.

I didnt even manage to play the map to completion cos it just seemed like it was full of gimmicks and no substance.


Altho' I wasnt a fan of your bf1 maps I did expect more from this map.



Pro's -

Nice atmosphere (good use of fog)
Correct names
New weapon models
resurected the speederbike to near BF1 properties



Con's

Flat boring layout
Majorly unbalanced ( super speeders and super commando's )
Vehicle Diet Dr. Pepper map ( tho some people might like this)
Lack of cover
Map felt really small for a 'Vehicle Wars' map ....probably due to the crazy tank speeds.


I apologise if it comes accross as if im givin the map abit of a belting but im kinda in a rush to go and play Battlefield 2 : Special forces so i didnt have enough time to ' nicen it up '

[Prisoner_of_the_Ram]

I'm all for realism, but sometimes it can subtract from the fun.

The commando is TOO strong, it may be completely faithful to a real commando but they were pretty much a one man army and there weren't 20 of them running around at one time like this map has. They are almost unbeatable by other infantry units and the bothans are untouchable. Mix invisibility with a shield with a better recharge than a Star Destroyer and that's not fun.
Also...
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Personal_energy_shield

Scroll down to the Clone Wars and Galactic Civil War bit. They were said to cause massive amounts of radiation poisoning etc. I can understand it may work on the commando but the bothan is unsuited and would be killed by it's own shields relatively quickly.